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Speed records / Fartsrekorder
Posted by: Sail A Cat (IP Logged)
Date: December 21, 2008 10:13PM

Fra the Daily Sail kommer info om at l'Hydroptere klarte en maks hastighet på 61 knop under sitt siste rekordforsøk før de gikk rundt. Etter sigende har mannskapet fått noen småskader men de er mest fornøyd med topphastigheten.

Fra Scuttlebutt [bymnews.com]

Go Places... FAST!
Reynolds catamarans
www.25knop.no



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 03/29/2009 01:21AM by Sail A Cat.

Re: 61 knop
Posted by: Conrad (IP Logged)
Date: January 27, 2009 09:56AM

Small point of interest:

Skipper Alain Thebault on Hydroptere was also skipper on the F28 CDK that won the F28 event we held in Horten way back in 1989.

Intercontinental Drag Race for Speed Record
Posted by: Conrad (IP Logged)
Date: March 28, 2009 02:32PM

Yesterday; a new 'boat' (as opposed to kite) speed record by Macquarie in Australia,

Sailrocket, in Namibia, repaired after crash on March 13, spent entire day all rigged up and waiting for 30-knot winds to moderate.


New overall speed record, any day now?

Anybody heard how long the repairs on Hydroptere will take?


[www.youtube.com]
[www.macquarie.com.au] (no update as of this)

[www.sailrocket.com]

And of course the new speed record on land ! [www.greenbird.co.uk]

Re: Speed records / Fartsrekorder
Posted by: Sail A Cat (IP Logged)
Date: March 29, 2009 01:24AM

Copy and Paste from SA

Australia’s Macquarie Innovation last night made world speed sailing history when it powered down the 500m Sandy Point course at an average speed of 50.43 knots. In winds of only 24 knots, Macquarie Innovation reached a maximum speed of 54.23 knots (100km/hr) and became the first sailing boat in the world to complete an official 500m run in excess of 50 knots.

Sailrocket Warming Up...
Posted by: Conrad (IP Logged)
Date: April 01, 2009 05:37PM

Aktivt idag på Sailrocket's 'track' i Namibia. Dette er en sport som man må si er væravhengig til en uvanlig frustrererende grad. Det begynte med dette innlegget på nyhetssiden:

ITS AHHH.... LOOKING PRETTY MEATY OUT THERE AND WE'RE ON OUR WAY!!!
Submitted by Paul on Wed, 04/01/2009 - 12:16.
Everyone's tooling up for what is shaping up to be a special day.

We might just have got what we asked for. I'd be lying if I didn't say it makes me a little nervous. Big things can happen on days like this. Strong forces dictate the outcome inside and outside.

All the team know it can go either way and everyone gets a little more serious.
I think we're ready. It's up to nature to come to the party now.
If conditions are 'record-breaking' good over at speed-spot we will start a live feed.
I don't know what course (nautical mile or 500 m) we will go for today as it will depend on the wind strength and the state of the tide/water.
So hey-ho... let's go!
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På log-tjenesten kom da etterhvert disse meldingene, les de fra bunnen opp. Lokal tid der var 2 timer etter oss, innimellom er noen kommentarer skrevet inn av supportere:



Log entries for 01 Apr 09 (READ FROM BOTTOM UP)





GabeSpar : This info has been coming from the container, as it's April Fools day.....

GabeSpar : Now I have to hold my breath until tomorrow?

hendrik : no. no, everyone's waiting

17:16:36 UTC : Thank's all.

anonymous : any news

17:15:46 UTC : will update later for you all thanks for logging on, cheers Helena.

Phill B : What a way to finish the day! Awesome repair job on VSR. Thankyou so much for letting us into your world for the afternoon. You guys rock!

17:11:48 UTC : I will update if any news in the next 5min

17:11:20 UTC : gettin dark here now so we will pack up and wait for the RIB to pick us up

17:10:39 UTC : I know, me too!

17:09:47 UTC : it looked fast and steady the wind was gusting 24's but dropped down to 18's during the run

Phill B : Thank God! I can breath again.

17:08:44 UTC : all went well we just have to wait for the numbers

17:08:15 UTC : ok he has completed the mile run now

GO : Git Her Done! Good Luck, Take Care!!

anonymous : any news

jeremylees : All holding our breath...

Dan : Good luck guys!

Phill B : Go! Paul Go!

hendrik : GODSPEED

16:50:09 UTC : it is 23-24kn with low's of 21's and 22's

ianw : has the wind dropped any

16:49:13 UTC : this will be a very late run now the sun is almost down

16:48:46 UTC : he is going now

16:42:32 UTC : we are still seeing 25

16:29:43 UTC : still 25's and 26's...sun is going down now we will make a call in 10min

16:24:43 UTC : Paul just said on the radio that he will wait we can not wait to long now maybe another half an h

ianw : at what point do you pull the plug on today

16:23:32 UTC : it is piping up just got a 27

ianw : at what point do you pull the plug on today

16:16:12 UTC : no headlights

16:15:43 UTC : still 24's it is not letting off today

ianw : what wind speed are you after

jeremylees : If it's rough in the lagoon it'll rattle Paul around a bit too!

GabeSpar : What's the record for night speedsailing?

16:07:39 UTC : should get better the later he goes

16:06:43 UTC : if he goes for the mile run, he comes smoking of the 500m course doing 40+kn and if it is rough in the lagoon it is hard on VSR

hendrik : well, done that before...

16:04:26 UTC : Paul will end up in the first lagoon if he goes for the mile run

16:02:51 UTC : RIB is checking out the conditions in the lagoon...if it is too rough

jeremylees : Ah, pressed refresh cos the page timed out

15:59:52 UTC : still gusting 26's

15:59:40 UTC : [Webmaster] Yeah, gremlins in the website. We'll sort out this double-post issue at some point. It generally happens when you press refresh after posting a comment. Usually you shouldn't need to click refresh since the page will update automatically every minute.

jeremylees : getting less steady then - not good...

15:57:49 UTC : we have one more h before sunset

jeremylees : How did that happen - I didn't send that..

jeremylees : It's worth waiting. 26knots is too much. You don't want to break the boat!

15:55:21 UTC : seeing low's now of 19kn but still getting gusts of 25's

15:53:55 UTC : it is anyones guess if the wind will drop or stay I think even the locals would be guessing today

15:53:03 UTC : problem is the tide is coming in so it gets choppier as the beach disapears

15:52:06 UTC : sunset is at 19.01 local time

jeremyless : Flat water's going to help though - easier to translate power into speed

15:48:18 UTC : 21-24 is ok

15:47:49 UTC : Paul want's no 25 and 26's

jeremylees : It's worth waiting. 26knots is too much. You don't want to break the boat!

15:46:59 UTC : very steady 24-25

ianw : what wind speed are you after

15:45:45 UTC : course is not as nice as yesterday but for blowing 25-26 it is pretty flat

15:44:53 UTC : 24-25

15:44:00 UTC : just seen another peak of 26

15:42:48 UTC : good angle

15:42:32 UTC : lows of 20's now

15:41:57 UTC : they are now on the way back up the course to VSR

15:41:28 UTC : Nick and Sophie has gone to reset the markers

15:40:58 UTC : it is getting there..

15:38:50 UTC : still seeing tops of 24kn

longboat : go for it!

jeremylees : yeah - force 6 is a lot of breeze...

ianw : good luck

15:21:35 UTC : wing is up, waiting for the peak wind speed to drop a little

15:20:13 UTC : wind currently 22-24 with gusts up to 26 knots

hub : Good luck !

malcs calcs : go for it Paul good luck

Stephane : Cross fingers...

14:34:37 UTC : good wing good angle and a v flat course!

14:34:13 UTC : ok...I have to go but will inform once back here in the hut

14:33:49 UTC : we are going to the top of the course trying for the mile...

14:33:25 UTC : wind is good now gusting 23

Stephane : Any news ??? What's up ...

Frank Stein : whats happening guys, wind dropping off ?

13:59:42 UTC : we will wait a bit for now but we are very ready...

13:59:07 UTC : still a bit W at the moment and the tide is still a bit low

13:57:31 UTC : wind is 17 gusting 21kn

13:57:07 UTC : ok...we are at the speed spot now all the team and VSR



[www.sailrocket.com]



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/01/2009 07:34PM by Conrad.

TRE DAGER, Å FÅ DET TIL
Posted by: Conrad (IP Logged)
Date: April 17, 2009 11:26PM

Å lese bloggen til SailRocket er - nesten - som å sitte i sofaen foran peisen og lese Nansen's beretninger fra Fram/Over Polhavet; har også en gammel kopi av den engelske utgaven "Farthest North", og den er like god.

SailRocket/Paul Larsen har nå tre dager igjen til å sette rekord, iår.

Sålangt er bloggen en utholdenhetsprøve for enhver leser, med betydelige vanskeligheter og 'dashed hopes', og noen lovende 45-knops løp av og til.

Det Paul og gjengen hans forsøker, er så spesialisert gjennomstudert, og samtidig bingo-aktig, at det må være en lettelse for både de og deres tålmodige venner at det nå er kommet til en klar deadline om få dager.

Værmeldingen er nå lovende, båten (kan man kalle det det?) er klar, og Paul's innstilling er faenivoldsk manisk kompromissløs.

Det er interessant.

[www.sailrocket.com]

"Overall the pressure we are under to get a result now makes my life simpler. There is only one option for hitting the course. The boat is in smoking form and if we get the breeze then my job is simple... peg it on the beach and sheet it all in to the marks... and hold my breath. My job is not to react... "

IDAG gjelder det !
Posted by: Conrad (IP Logged)
Date: April 19, 2009 03:12PM

Det er en lovende dag og ser ut som den siste sjansen å sette rekord for SailRocket.
På hjemmesiden deres kan du få direkte live meldinger (home page/live updates/open log):

Submitted by Paul on Sun, 04/19/2009 - 12:09.
We have two days left... and today is supposed to be the windy one. Yesterday didn't quite grunt up. We did yet another easy and un-dramatic 40 something knot run.

Once we knew we weren't going to break any records we headed home.

Our eggs are all in todays basket. It's been forecast to blow to 26 knots. We don't need that much but I would rather too much as against too little. If we get too much then I will still have to just go for it. we have been watching this little 'peak' in the forecast for a week now. It has grown stronger and weaker with each forecast but in the end it has stuck on 26. It's freshening up outside now and everyone is climbing into their MUSTO drysuits...

Re: IDAG gjelder det !
Posted by: Conrad (IP Logged)
Date: April 19, 2009 08:48PM

katta Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------

> Å følge Sailrocket har omtrent vært som en klassisk
> gresk tragedie.

Det har vært stille på webloggen siden Larsen Agonistes dro ut. Ikke ett ord om forberedelser osv. Må vi vente på at en sendebud kommer tilbake fra slagmarken?

Derimot hadde jeg også kuttet ut denne web-log tjenesten siste dagen, det er en distrahering som kan provosere gudenes vrede, ihvertfall inspirere de i deres snedige triks.

Re: Speed records / Fartsrekorder
Posted by: Sail A Cat (IP Logged)
Date: September 06, 2009 07:25PM

L'Hydroptere har satt ny rekord. 51,36 knop, og det er snittet over 500 meter

Re: Speed records / Fartsrekorder
Posted by: marteko (IP Logged)
Date: September 09, 2009 09:57PM

Catamaran speed = 2 x monohull speed
Trimaran speed = 3 x monohull speed
Simple logic, not?

Re: Speed records / Fartsrekorder
Posted by: Sail A Cat (IP Logged)
Date: November 13, 2009 08:36AM

l'Hydroptere har gjort det igjen,

Denne gangen med 50.17 knop i snitt over en nautisk mil.

Re: Speed records / Fartsrekorder
Posted by: xoz (IP Logged)
Date: November 13, 2009 11:38PM

Porno. Og i samme stund driver andre match race båter og cruser under trening i 45+.

Re: Speed records / Fartsrekorder
Posted by: Conrad (IP Logged)
Date: June 09, 2010 10:53PM

Hydroptere har vært i Cowes flere dager på PR-ferien sin (neste stopp er Kiel), og Paul Larsen fra Sailrocket har da truffet Alain Thebault for første gang og til og med fått lov til å ratte det franske vidunderet.

(til etteretning, Sailrocket er i sluttfasen av modifiseringer til en ny sesong med rekordforsøk; men det er antagelig slutt på sponsringen hvis de ikke klarer det denne gang)

En av de ~mest interessante~ inleggene på lang tid, er det! Les hva Larsen's refleksjoner er, etter å ha opplevd Hydroptere:

[www.sailrocket.com]

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her er et utdrag:

"Whilst all this happened I was imagining what it would be like lining up for a crack at the 500 meter run onboard this boat. I feel I can honestly say this. That boat is truly on the edge at high speed. To me it is fun... but not what we aspire towards with our own project. At 50 knots I can cleat off the wing and let go of the controls. I couldn’t help but feel that Hydroptere felt like three boats forced to fly in close formation. When it gets upset by chop or ferry wakes it seems to fight itself as it wracks, yaws and nods around. This is not fast. Once it shakes itself free of all this and settles down to smooth formation flying again, you can feel it accelerate as the internal fight subsides. Foils are effective brakes when they are not in harmony. The torsion that those large foils put on the beam must be significant and to keep them in harmony must be a large engineering problem in its own right. To ride this thing at record speeds must be one of sailings finest balancing acts. She goes her fastest when she is flying the windward foil but when you look at what her motion is when she does this you quickly see that it has issues. The problem is that when she rolls, she goes from riding flat on three foils to sitting on two foils that are diagonally offset. If she just rolls to leeward then she risks lifting her ‘T’ rudder out of the water and losing all pitch stability. I guess it all depends on how she is trimmed at speed i.e. does the T rudder pull down or create lift... or neither in that it just follows the surface piercing front foils. I have to assume that they can’t control the trim tab during record runs as only the instruments are allowed to be powered. From what I understand they simply try to fly the boat flat. If the rear T foil is supporting the aft end then when the boat rolls, it also rears backwards along the diagonal line between the leeward foil and the rudder. This would increase the angle of attack of the foils to the water and cause her to rise and lift higher on her foils. As they are canted inwards this would mean that her righting moment is reducing right when it is being pushed the hardest. The boat would be going damned quick but is heading to a point of instability which demands crew input to control. The sheets get eased and the helm put to leeward. Here she would suffer the same issues as VESTAS SAILROCKET but in reverse. Her highly loaded and inward canted foil would lose some of its angle of attack in a bear away that would cause it to sink lower as it loses both vertical and lateral lift. So the drag picks up and then does so even more when the windward foil touches down. This drag to windward causes the boat to go into a nodding yaw and the whole formation goes into an oscillation that slows the boat and takes a little time to settle down. Their best 500 meter speed run ended just after they survived one of those high speed moments as the boat slowed significantly whilst it regained its composure. It took one of those high speed moments to drag the average up to a record speed... but then I guess it does for all of us. Each time they do this they run up and poke the crocodile in the eye.
Now all of this is my take on what is happening... and I think it is even more complex than that. I’m still getting my head around it. It seems to me that a bunch of undesirable things are going on which this team have done an amazing job of understanding and controlling. To me it looks like a very complex way to go fast, but a hell of a lot of fun... especially if you can afford to cover the consequences of when the crocodile snaps!"



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/09/2010 11:04PM by Conrad.

Re: Speed records / Fartsrekorder
Posted by: Sail A Cat (IP Logged)
Date: June 10, 2010 11:23AM

Og jeg som trodde at SailRocket var "a beast"

Rolf

Re: Speed records / Fartsrekorder
Posted by: Conrad (IP Logged)
Date: June 18, 2010 11:51AM

Hydroptere kom til Kiel onsdag, skal bli der til den 28. De har plass hos Kieler Yacht Club og skal demonstrere båten for tyske jounalister, en film skal lages.

I Cowes var James Boyd ombord, og det er detaljert rapport og video i opp til 34 knop på The Daily Sail. Video'n (bare for abonnenter) er interessant å se på i lys av Paul Larsen's kommentarer. Neste dag i middels vind forsøkte de seg på Playstation's rekord rundt Isle of Wight og var til slutt 8 minutter bak. Turen til Kiel hadde de lett vind opp gjennom kanalen, men snittfart på 25 utenfor Holland, og de tok kanalen til Kiel.

Re: Speed records / Fartsrekorder
Posted by: Conrad (IP Logged)
Date: June 19, 2010 12:02PM

Ingen nyheter om Hydroptere i Kiel enda, men her er to videoer som Matt Sheahan la ut forrige uke, fra Cowes:

[www.youtube.com]

[www.youtube.com]

[www.yachtingworld.com]



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